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Soul in the Game: A Conversation with Vitaliy Katsenelson

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Mar 10, 2025
Vitaliy Katsenelson, a Denver-based value investor and author of "Soul in the Game," shares his journey from Soviet Russia to the U.S. He reflects on the stark contrasts between scarcity and abundance and advocates for the pursuit of purpose over financial gain. Katsenelson emphasizes the importance of aligning values with professional pursuits and views time as our most precious asset, urging listeners to use money to buy time for meaningful experiences. His insights draw on Stoicism, cultural reflections, and the creative aspects of investing.
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ANECDOTE

From Scarcity to Abundance

  • Vitaliy Katsenelson was born in Murmansk, Soviet Russia, a city known for its harsh winters and scarcity.
  • Moving to the US in 1991, he transitioned from scarcity to abundance, appreciating the contrast.
INSIGHT

European vs. American Work Ethic

  • Katsenelson discusses the caricatured contrast between American work ethic and the European "work to live" philosophy.
  • He advocates for incorporating elements of both, emphasizing work-life balance.
ADVICE

Embrace European Downtime

  • Implement "European days" to prioritize personal time and activities outside of work.
  • Schedule specific times for activities like walks, workouts, and family dinners.
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