Joining the discussion is Ta-Nehisi Coates, acclaimed author of "The Message," who offers profound insights into the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He explores how victims can become victimizers, emphasizing the complex narratives that shape this ongoing struggle. The conversation also touches on the emotional toll of the October 7th attack on both Israelis and Palestinians, and the shifting political dynamics surrounding the conflict. With poignant reflections and historical context, Coates urges listeners to reconsider their understanding of power and identity in the region.
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Hostage Release and Loss
Maya Roman's cousin, Yarden, was returned in a hostage release deal.
However, Yarden's sister, Carmel, was found dead in September.
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Documenting the War in Gaza
Noor Swerky, a Palestinian journalist, has been displaced four times since the war began.
She remains in Gaza to document the conflict, despite losing her home and family members.
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Escalating Conflict
The war in Gaza has been ongoing for a year and is escalating, not winding down.
Initial hopes for a ceasefire have diminished.
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In 'The Message', Ta-Nehisi Coates delves into the intersections of race, power, and identity through three intertwining essays. The book is part memoir, part travelogue, and part writing primer. Coates reflects on his visits to Dakar, Senegal, where he grapples with his Afrocentric roots; Columbia, South Carolina, where he examines the backlash against historical reckoning and book banning; and Palestine, where he critiques nationalist narratives and their impact on reality. The book emphasizes the urgent need to untangle destructive myths and embrace difficult truths to create a more just future.
Tommy and Ben discuss the anniversary of the October 7th attack in Israel and how the war has expanded across the Middle East in the year since, they play reflections from a Palestinian journalist in Gaza and an Israeli woman whose relatives were taken hostage, and discuss the heavy fighting this week in both Northern Gaza and Lebanon. Then they talk about how the war has become a major issue on the campaign trail, Trump’s bizarre claim to have visited Gaza and support for Israel attacking Iranian nuclear infrastructure, Kamala Harris’s frosty comments about Benjamin Netanyahu on 60 Minutes, Macron’s call to stop arming Israel, and Netanyahu’s ominous message to the Lebanese people. They also talk about Bob Woodward’s new book, the Tunisian election and the end of the Arab Spring, the dangers of the far-right surge in Austria, and a Qantas Airlines experience of in-flight entertainment gone horribly wrong. Then, Ben speaks to Ta-Nehisi Coates about his new book, “The Message”, that digs into the Israeli and Palestinian conflict and how victims can become victimizers.
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