Today, I am blessed to have here with me for a second time, Dr. Nasha Winters. She has been on a personal journey with cancer for the last 27 years.

Her quest to save her own life has transformed into a mission to support others on a similar journey. Dr. Nasha travels the world to explore integrative cancer clinics, vet cancer protocols for research projects, speak at conferences, and meet with colleagues to help them apply metabolic approaches with their patients.

Dr. Nasha offers doctor-to-doctor consultations and intensive mentorships for clinicians who want to more deeply understand metabolic and integrative approaches to cancer.

In this episode, Dr. Nasha goes into depth about the processes happening to your cells and your body during cancer. She advises us on how to process the loss of someone you love, all the way to sharing her favorite inflammatory markers. In between, Dr. Nasha explains how we can expand our lifespan by taking care of our mitochondria and the importance of fasting and ketosis during radiation therapy. Dr. Nasha also speaks about different cancer theories in the medical field and why she finds one more hopeful than the other.

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[01:45] How To Process The Loss Of Somebody You Love And Adore

There are only two promises in this world: being born and dying.
Even though we intellectually understand death, it's definitely still very painful.
At 19, Dr. Nasha met her own diagnosis.
It took a long time for Dr. Nasha to really come to terms with understanding death and dying. However, It's not something we're taught in our culture. Yet when you work with chronically ill people with cancer, you're going to see it, and you're going to see it often.
Nasha learned to understand that death and dying look exactly the same. They're just an unbelievable passing through a particular threshold; they are not as scary and ugly as we've made them out to be in our world.
Death is a powerful threshold; it is a very normal process of life.

[09:40] What We Can Do To Extend Our Lifespan

Our fountain of youth resides in the health and wealth of our mitochondria.
Nasha explains that, unfortunately, new beings are entering this planet with their mitochondria already somewhat polluted and damaged. Then, the longer you are on this planet, and the more you neglect your health, the more damage you do to your mitochondria as well.
These mitochondrial conditions make you age faster and be more susceptible to chronic illness processes.
Nasha emphasizes that preventative care is key to heading off these conditions and extending our lifespan.
There are many easy ways to access what is actually happening in your body, and as a culture, we need to start caring about not just feeling fine but being optimally healthy.
Whether people like it or not, this "optimal health" is heavily influenced not only by physical factors, but by our life experiences, emotional intelligence, resilience to stressors, and other important mental, emotional and spiritual aspects of our life.

[21:12] Metabolic vs. Somatic Theories of Cancer Explained By Dr. Nasha

Somatic theory is the concept that our DNA accumulates damages to its structure over time and then sets off a path to a cancering process. This theory supports the idea that cancer is a “bad luck game” and you’re just either going to get it or you’re not.
Nasha does not subscribe to this thought process. It creates the idea that you are powerless, and powerlessness is an incredible toxin.
Metabolic theory instead conceptualizes that we can see where the cancer cells stem from and that we can make a difference.
From our thoughts to our food, to the water we drink and the air we breathe, everything around us affects our mitochondria.
Our mitochondria are the “genome protectors;” the key to warding off cancerous cells. So keeping them healthy is crucial.
This is where Dr. Nasha sees hope in the vision of cancer, that we can make a difference.

[28:12] What Is Affecting Cancerous Cell Replication + What You Can Do About It

Once an unhealthy cell switches its fuel source to sugar and starts replicating, it will just keep replicating.
Our ability to break to kill off those damaged, dysfunctional or rogue cells is under the complete guidance of our mitochondria. So if our mitochondria are unhealthy, damaged, or inefficient, they cannot stop the attacks.
But if you get your body fat down and build up your muscle, you actually start to increase your storage and effectiveness, and efficiency of your mitochondria.
Nasha has found that she can help patients take the mitochondria they have and strengthen them through powerful tools like intermittent fasting, cryotherapy, and more.
Unfortunately, the pharmaceutical industry can’t get rich off these tools, so they push it to the back.
All while we keep trying to find the pharmaceutical answer to the ancient wisdom that's been available to us all along.

[37:47] The Importance of Metabolic Flexibility

Nasha has found that the vast majority of her patients are not very metabolically flexible.
Most people in their normal lives tend to eat something every 2 to 3 hours and also like to indulge in a little snack or sweet treat between dinner and bed.
However, learning to fast can be extremely important.
In a 1909 study, it was found that simply fasting cytotoxically reduced the size of a tumor.
So, if you take fasting and pair it with chemo, you get a synergy, like a double whammy. All while protecting those healthy mitochondria from the damaging effects of that chemo or that radiation.
Yet, most oncologists still aren't full-heartedly supporting their patients fasting during chemo.

[46:23] How Exogenous Ketones Help During Radiation

Nasha emphasizes that just taking exogenous ketones will never be as good as doing ketogenesis the old fashion way.
However, exogenous ketones can help to give a running start to people who are new to low carb or need to get primed for a particular chemotherapy.
They also help reduce the withdrawal from carbs that most patients feel at first, giving your psychology time to catch up with your physiology.
Exogenous ketones can even pack an extra punch for folks who are already fat-adapted during radiation to protect the healthy tissues.
This is also important for patients that have brain tumors, for instance, because the steroids they might be taking make it almost impossible to get into therapeutic ketosis.
Another great way to get into ketosis is a three-day water fast. Those doing this around their chemo find exogenous ketones keep them feeling pretty good.

[50:18] What Level of Ketones Are Optimal For Radiation + Therapeutic Ketosis

Ideally, Dr. Nasha wants them in therapeutic ketosis, which is above three on the Keto-Mojo.
For people to get into a level of three and higher, you have to be very metabolically flexible and/or taking exogenous ketones.
What gets someone to a certain level of ketones is unique to the person.
Not only are bodies unique on their own, but all the stress and different medications can make it even harder to get into ketosis during cancer treatment.
The point being, don't beat yourself up if it is harder for you to get into ketosis than someone else.

[53:40] Dr. Nasha’s Favorite Inflammatory Markers

Nasha’s trifecta: C Reactive Protein (CRP), Sedimentation Rate (ESR), and Lactate Dehydrogenase (LDH)
CRP is prognostic for many things. If you have an elevated CRP at the time of your breast cancer diagnosis or colorectal cancer diagnosis, you have a poor prognosis.
Sedimentation rate tells you how fast your blood cells fall out of plasma.
If the cells fall out fast, that is good; you want flow in your blood. If they fall out slow, your blood is more gelatinous and also means you have more inflammation in your tissues.
LDH is the most important test for your metabolic health. If your LDH is high, your mitochondria are off.
When using this trifecta as a collective, they are more sensitive and specific than any other cancer marker Dr. Nasha has seen.

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