359: When They Stop Caring: Hygiene, Hope & His Libido

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May 29, 2025

Delve into the complexities of personal hygiene and mental health as a struggling young woman raises concerns for her parents. The discussion shifts to the evolutionary roots of parental concern and the dynamics of supporting adult children. Explore how communication styles can impact relationships, and uncover the triggers behind changes in libido, addressing listener worries about diminished sexual interest. Throughout, the importance of community support, personal responsibility, and emotional connection emerges as key themes.

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INSIGHT

Hygiene Neglect: Personality or Depression?

Neglecting hygiene can reflect personality traits like Asperger's rather than depression if life functioning is maintained.
A radical change in hygiene compared to earlier years signals potential depression or dysfunction.

ADVICE

When to Seek Help for Hygiene Issues

If hygiene decline is a new behavior, parents should discuss concerns with their adult child and seek professional help if indicated.
Understand if the individual reports feeling demoralized or helpless to address underlying depression.

ADVICE

Use Material Deprivation to Motivate

Encourage adult children not working to engage in part-time or volunteer work to motivate independence.
Provide minimalistic support ensuring safety but remove comforts like Netflix or candy bars to push responsibility.

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Evolutionary psychologist, Doug Lisle, PhD discusses listener questions with co-host, Nathan Gershfeld.

0:00 Teaser Clips & Intro

04:31 Q1: My daughter doesn’t care about her appearance – could it be more than just preference?

14:32 Q2: Our 42 year old dependent daughter said she’ll kill herself after we die

32:35 Communication & Negotiation

39:06 Q3: My pot-smoking husband’s libido has decreased – but is it me?

53:15 Final thoughts

Q1: Is neglecting personal hygiene and physical appearance really a sign of depression, or is it just personality? My 37 year old daughter doesn’t care about her appearance at all, she wears pajamas and slippers everywhere with her hair up in a tangled bun and doesn’t wear makeup at all. This doesn’t seem so bad, but she’s completely neglecting her personal hygiene, she doesn’t shower for weeks, smells bad, doesn’t wash her hair for months, doesn’t brush her teeth regularly, hasn’t gotten a haircut in years (her hair’s almost down to her knees) and doesn’t even brush her hair. Her complete lack of personal hygiene is worrying. She wasn’t like this when she was living with me, but that could be because I was always telling her to do those things. Now that she’s living alone, is this just who she is? Or should I be worried that there’s something else wrong, like depression?

Q2: My husband and I are both 77 years old and we are still working to support our 42 year old daughter. We could have retired a long time ago, but we still work to save up money so our daughter can live comfortably after our passing. We know she’ll never work - she hasn’t worked for 20 years. She was always a smart girl, she graduated with a bachelor’s degree in nursing and worked for a month during which she had many panic attacks and mental breakdowns. They forced her to take a medical leave of absence, was diagnosed with autism and anxiety issues, but she never went back to work and we’ve been supporting her ever since. We have quite a lot of money saved up, so she’ll be able to live comfortably after we die. I recently asked her what she’ll do after we die, she said she’ll kill herself, that she can’t live without us. This answer deeply upset me. My husband and I sacrificed our lives and retirement for her, just so she could kill herself in a few years. I feel like I wasted my life and she wasted hers, that I failed her and caused her to become so enmeshed with us that she can’t live without us. I’m heartbroken. I don’t know what to do. Do you have any advice?

Q3: Does a man’s libido change overtime, and is it common? It has been a year since I’ve noticed a decrease in my husband’s sexual advances and general sexual interest in me. What used to be sex at least once a week is now biweekly or less. And sometimes he even struggles to orgasm. I’ve brought this issue up to him a few times and his reasons is that he’s tired because he works a lot (around 10 hours a day sometimes) and is generally stressed with work and life. I agree that our life is stressful right now for a few reasons (his new job, child raising, finances, dealing with family (his in-laws) issues etc) but I also have a hard time believing that those are the actual reasons. Even though I get stressed and tired, I still want to be intimate. I really don’t believe he’s cheating or anything like that- he’s a devoted husband and father otherwise, and I also haven’t gained weight, I’m the same I was when we met. But I’ve always been insecure about my looks and body so his lack of interest is really taking a toll on my ego. It seems he’d rather watch a show on his iPad than spend time with me. Could what he be saying really be true? Does a man’s libido decline with stress or age? He is 43 and I’m 33. He is also smokes cannabis regularly (always has since I met him). Any advice on how to handle the situation is greatly appreciated!

X: @BeatYourGenes

Web: www.beatyourgenes.org

Doug Lisle, PhD www.esteemdynamics.com

Nathan Gershfeld, DC www.fastingescape.com

Intro & outro song: City of Happy Ones • Ferenc Hegedus Licensed for use