Ashley and Brian ask John about network swarms, energy, technology, and what we can be optimistic about in the face of it all.

John Robb @johnrobb -- Tier 1 special ops. Pilot. Analyst. Author. Tech pioneer. He writes The Global Guerrillas Report -- predictive frameworks for making sense of the world at the intersection of war, technology, and politics. http://patreon.com/johnrobb johnrobb.substack.com

Brian Keith podcasts on mindset, systems, and profit om Red Beard Radio. Get it at http://redbeard.am. He also interviews John Robb inside his Patreon each month. Subscribe at http://patreon.com/johnrobb.

Ashley Colby is an Environmental Sociologist who studied at Washington State University, the department that founded the subdiscipline. She's interested in and passionate about the myriad creative ways in which people are forming new social worlds in resistance to collapse. She's the founder of Rizoma Field School in Colonia Uruguay.

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