This Veritas interview reveals Kim Carlsberg's heartbreaking, horrific, bittersweet story of eight years of abductions by Grays who mined her DNA, bred human-Gray hybrids, implanted in her and then removed and incubated the fetuses, introduced her to her children, and kept them.

"The most traumatic experience of my life was being implanted with an alien species," says Carlsberg. "Some [of the fetuses] were too frail to live. I may have five or six hybrid children. April and Aqua are mine for sure."

Seemingly at peace with it all now and unusual in terms of near total conscious recall, Carlsberg includes 150 individual stories of contact accompanied by art work submitted by the experiencers sent to her from around the world, in her new contributor-illustrated book, The Art of Close Encounters.

The mid-west raised, California art school-educated Carlsberg is an accomplished photographer, author and businesswoman now living in Sedona, Arizona.

With a Jane Fonda-like voice and cadence, Carlsberg recounts visits to other planets; experiences in ships and underground; vast halls of tables upon which unconscious humans were being anatomically manipulated; of being submersed in liquid for transport to other planets; of dying and being brought back to life; of telepathic exchanges with "anorexic Pillsbury dough boys," as she initially described the Grays, and of her relationship with her hybrid children.

"The grays have taken the best of each species and created these beautiful children. I've seen every combination [of the] different races on our planet."

After her initial abduction, she was in her 20's, she says, "Next thing, I woke up in my bed. My boyfriend had not moved. I lay there thinking, "What just happened?" Life as Carlsberg knew it, would never be the same. For the next eight years, she would experience repeated abductions. Carlsberg was determined to stay awake and aware during the incidents, to make sense of what was happening. "Then I learned how to make it stop." Likely at the expense of never seeing her children again.

"They say it's multi-generational" [this involvement with the Grays]. "I assume I've been manipulated, probably my Mom, too," says Carlsberg. "They could be replacing us because we are destroying the planet. They could be trying to move here because they can't sustain themselves, but I didn't get that. They may be coming back in time to fix something in the DNA, or, they are geneticists, and they create species."

Carlsberg detected plenty of individuality among the Grays. There were times when she knew them to be "full of joy and happiness." Mostly they mask their feelings while around us, though. And so much of it was torture, plain and simple. "I was part of a pain threshold program," Carlsberg says. "The bad room," she recounts, is where "they tortured me until I died, and then they would bring me back. I don't know why. To know what we can take?"

"Once after one of my surgeries -- they destroyed my reproductive system -- I was in bed resting, and one being came to me and said very lovingly, 'You are us. We are all one.' I had a nirvana experience. I felt at one with all beings. That's why it's so confusing. It's both so good and so bad."

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