Today, Jane and Fi take a moment to think about the dark world of parenting before CBeebies. They also chat about skew-whiff black bin numbers, resignation Tuesday and the importance of being honest.

Fi speaks to Tiggy Walker, patron of Carers UK, about her experience caring for her husband, Johnnie Walker.

Our next book club pick has been announced! 'Missing, Presumed' is by Susie Steiner.

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Assistant Producer: Hannah Quinn

Podcast Producer: Eve Salusbury

Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler

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I've just got too many Allen keys (with Tiggy Walker)