Where There's Woke WTW87: The New York Times Pride Hate Crime, Part 2
Aug 1, 2025
Andrew Sullivan's controversial views on queer issues are put to the test, sparking a spirited debate over generational differences and the term 'queer'. The hosts discuss the critical importance of acceptance for trans rights while unpacking media narratives around gender-affirming care. Lydia shares her exhilarating first experience at San Francisco Pride, emphasizing the joy and community it fosters. They reflect on the significance of public celebrations in enriching LGBTQ life and push back against harmful portrayals of dissent and misinformation.
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Anti‑Woke Critics Mirror What They Condemn
- Thomas and Lydia argue that anti-woke rhetoric often reflects the very behaviors critics accuse others of.
- They highlight hypocrisy where critics claim victimhood while using DEI to promote their own views.
Language Reclamation And 'Queer' As Inclusion
- The hosts defend reappropriation of slurs and note insiders decide acceptable usage, not outsiders.
- They observe 'queer' functions as an inclusive umbrella term for varied identities.
Biology Isn't Destiny, But Differences Matter
- Hosts reject the straw man that gender identity denies biology, stressing biology isn't fate.
- They emphasize categories overlap but aren't absolute, allowing inclusion without erasing sex differences.