William Locke explains why he’ll never give up his two biggest vices. Then Max talks with Congressman Jim Clyburn about how the balance between optimism and pragmatism has guided his political career and how he's maintained that balance without the help of his confidant, main advisor and late wife, Emily.

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"When You Win, Brag Gently; When You Lose, Weep Softly" with Jim Clyburn