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Ep. 575 Physician Employment Models: Exploring Benefits & Challenges with Dr. Ryan Trojan

Sep 23, 2025
Dr. Ryan Trojan, an interventional radiologist at INTEGRIS Health, discusses his transition from a blended practice to hospital employment, highlighting the financial and administrative challenges involved. He emphasizes the importance of demonstrating interventional radiology's value to hospital leadership, from reducing patient stays to enhancing trauma services. Ryan also explores contract structures, advocating for salary models that support lower RVU work. With insights on job satisfaction and growth in IR services, he offers practical advice for those considering a similar shift.
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ANECDOTE

Why He Left An IR-DR Blended Group

  • Ryan left an IR-DR blended private practice because he wanted to do IR-only and avoid heavy diagnostic volume.
  • He and colleagues chose hospital employment in 2019 as the only feasible path to practice full-time IR without financial instability.
INSIGHT

Work RVUs Miss IR’s True Value

  • Work RVUs undervalue many high-impact IR activities and can misrepresent IR's hospital value.
  • Ryan argues IR should be judged on outcomes like reducing length of stay and supporting key service lines, not just RVU counts.
ANECDOTE

Staffing Growth After Employment Switch

  • After moving to hospital employment, Ryan expanded staffing with PAs and NPs to enable more same-day add-ons.
  • That hiring allowed the group to plan for seven IR physicians and additional mid-level support to grow services.
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