Andreas Kling and Chris Wanstrath have joined forces to form a non-profit called Ladybird Browser Initiative to manage the newly forked Ladybird browser. We discuss what it’s going to take to get to alpha, the why behind Ladybird, avoiding incentives other than those of the users, their plans for incremental adoption of Swift as the successor language over C++, and of course what they hope Ladybird can achieve as a truly independent open source browser that’s for the people.

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Featuring:

• Andreas Kling – Website, GitHub, X
• Chris Wanstrath – Website, GitHub, X
• Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
• Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

Show Notes:

• Ladybird announcement (from Chris Wanstrath)
• Ladybird.org
• Ladybird Browser (on GitHub)
• The Changelog #10: All things GitHub with Chris Wanstrath
• Changelog Interviews #554: The serenity of building your own OS with Andreas Kling
• Swift.org
• Crafting Interpreters by Robert Nystrom (book)
• Click (2006) Official Trailer (from Adam Sandler)
• Plug: Void.dev
• Plug: Andreas Kling on YouTube
• Plug: Cozy lofi from Katalin Kult (ghost whiskers)

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