Bea speaks with Abby Cartus about why mortality for pregnant people is so high in the U.S., how our system of private health insurance companies and hospitals contributes to the problem, and why the field of public health as a whole needs to be remade. As always, support Death Panel at www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod new Death Panel merch here (patrons get a discount code): www.deathpanel.net/merch join our Discord here: discord.com/invite/3KjKbB2