In this conversation with EdUp Provost host Dr. Gregor Thuswaldner, Dr. Mark Kretovics discusses the dynamics of power and leadership within higher education, particularly focusing on the role of provosts. He explores the unique challenges provosts face regarding their perceived and actual power, the importance of building relationships, and the various leadership styles that can be effective in fostering collaboration. Dr. Kretovics emphasizes the need for provosts to adapt their leadership approach based on the situation and the individuals they are working with, highlighting the balance between transformational and transactional leadership. He also underscores the significance of building influence across different stakeholders within the institution. Mark Kretovics and Gregor Thuswaldner discuss the essential qualities and strategies for effective leadership in higher education, particularly for provosts. They emphasize the importance of building trust, collaboration, and humility, as well as the need for authenticity in relationships. The discussion also covers how to drive institutional change while managing crises effectively and aligning leadership goals with the broader mission of the institution. Takeaways • Power is defined as the ability to get people to do things. • Provosts operate in a unique position with limited direct power. • Building relationships is essential for effective leadership. • Provosts should focus on institutional goals, not personal agendas. • Situational leadership allows for adaptability in different contexts.