

The Next Chapter For Phantom | Brandon Millman & Sam Rosenblum
Aug 12, 2025
Brandon Millman, CEO of Phantom, and Sam Rosenblum, Vice President of Operations, dive into the dynamic landscape of Solana's DeFi. They discuss Phantom's vision for a super app that enhances user experience and the importance of owning direct relationships with end users. The pair also analyze Phantom's aggressive acquisition strategy and the complexities of navigating the crypto IPO market. With insights into on-chain finance and integrating innovative solutions, their conversation highlights the future of smart crypto engagement.
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Consolidation In DeFi Use Cases
- As crypto matures, dominant DeFi use cases consolidate around trading and perps.
- Brandon Millman warns innovation will continue but core products will attract most investment.
Usability As Competitive Moat
- Phantom's biggest differentiator is usability, not just features or distribution.
- Brandon Millman says UX is the highest-leverage lever to drive mainstream crypto adoption.
Phantom Aiming To Be A Consumer Finance App
- Phantom plans to evolve from a wallet into a next-gen consumer finance platform.
- Brandon Millman says they'll furnish the on-chain financial experiences mainstream users want.