Co-host Sean Illing talks to Peniel Joseph, a University of Texas at Austin historian of Black Power movements

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The Sword and the Shield: The Revolutionary Lives of Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. by Peniel Joseph

Featuring:

Peniel Joseph, a history professor at the University of Texas at Austin

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Sean Illing (@seanilling), interviews writer, Vox

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