In this episode we spoke with the John E. Mack Intitute's Communications Director Darren King, about the life and work of John Mack, as well as topics such as the nature of reality, consciousness, UAP and UFO phenomena, and the strange occurrences some people have as a result of their experiences. We touched on many points in this topic rich episode. Darren King is the host of "Point of Convergence" podcast as well as the co-host of "Liminal Phrames", and is also known as "EXO-Acadamian" on his social media platforms. John Edward Mack (October 4, 1929 – September 27, 2004) was an American psychiatrist, writer, and professor and the head of the department of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. In 1977, Mack won the Pulitzer Prize for his book A Prince of Our Disorder on T.E. Lawrence. As the head of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, Mack's clinical expertise was in child psychology, adolescent psychology, and the psychology of religion. He was also known as a leading researcher on the psychology of teenage suicide and drug addiction, and he later became a researcher in the psychology of alien abduction experiences.

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