Why Teams Will Break This Year (and How to Fix Them) | Battery Venture’s Dharmesh Thakker
Feb 11, 2025
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Ori Keren, CEO of LinearB, and Dharmesh Thakker, General Partner at Battery Ventures, dive into the future of developer productivity and the transformative role of AI. They explore the challenges and opportunities posed by AI-powered tools, from code review to innovative integrations. The conversation highlights key habits for productive engineering teams, the skepticism surrounding automation, and the evolving roles developers must adopt. Insights include practical advice on maximizing productivity and addressing the balance of creativity and technical governance in the tech landscape.
The rise of a token economy may transform how productivity is measured and valued within modern work environments.
Concerns about open sourcing AI models highlight the need for transparency and comprehensive access to foster true innovation.
The emergence of citizen developers through low-code platforms stresses the importance of guidelines to mitigate risks associated with democratized coding.
Deep dives
The Token Economy and Work Value
The discussion introduces the concept of a token economy, highlighting how individuals may become obsessed with maximizing their productivity measured by tokens. The notion suggests that each task completed consumes tokens and implies that more tokens spent equate to heightened achievement. This leads to speculation on whether future labor will involve tokenizing personal efforts, consequently changing how work is valued and compensated. The metaphor of a 'loot box' is drawn, emphasizing the randomness of outcomes despite the tokens invested, prompting a critical reflection on the true cost of productivity.
OpenAI's Stance on Open Sourcing
A recent Reddit AMA featuring OpenAI's CEO, Sam Altman, sparked significant debate about open sourcing AI models. Altman expressed concerns that the company may currently be on the wrong side of history regarding this transparency. The dialogue suggests that releasing AI model weights without accompanying training data and methodology might limit the benefits of open sourcing, as true innovation relies on comprehensive access to the technology's underlying systems. This raises critical questions about the balance between innovation protection and fostering collaborative progress within the AI community.
Evolution of Software Development Beliefs
A reflection from software engineer Chris Keel recounts how his perspectives on software development have shifted over time, emphasizing the ongoing need for simplicity and robust planning before coding begins. Keel notes that simplicity requires continuous effort, transforming it into a habitual process for long-term productivity benefits. His insights underline the importance of anticipating challenges in coding projects and addressing those through meticulous preparation. This highlights a growing understanding that effective software development is each developer's responsibility in navigating complexity.
AI and Developer Productivity
The conversation dives into the integration of AI tools into development practices, mentioning that these advancements may ultimately lead to a decline in developer productivity in the immediate future. Expectations are set that while AI can facilitate certain tasks, it may take time for organizations to effectively leverage these technologies. Predictions reference upcoming shifts that position senior developers as increasingly pivotal within teams, as their experience is essential for adapting and integrating AI into workflows. Emphasis is placed on how management must define new roles that capitalize on AI, ensuring effective utilization without sacrificing quality.
The Rise of Citizen Developers
The concept of citizen developers gaining prominence within organizations suggests that non-technical personnel will increasingly engage in development tasks through low-code and no-code platforms. This shift means that traditional development oversight may become more challenging as these tools democratize coding capabilities. However, the rise of citizen developers can lead to potential risks, including shadow IT and accrued technical debt from poorly constructed applications. The discussion highlights the necessity for proper guidelines and support systems as the distinction between technical and non-technical roles evolves in the workplace.
Live from San Francisco, Dev Interrupted explores the future of developer productivity with Ori Keren (CEO, LinearB) and Dharmesh Thakker (General Partner, Battery Ventures). The conversation, recorded before a live audience in San Francisco, examines the exciting possibilities and potential challenges of AI-powered tools, from code completion and review to the more advanced agentic AI.
Moderated by Ben Lloyd Pearson, this episode captures the excitement of the event, including audience Q&A and feedback. Ori and Dharmesh share their insights on how these trends will shape the future of software development over the next 12 to 24 months, offering predictions and practical advice for engineering teams and leaders. Discover how these shifts will impact your work and the broader tech industry.