The End of MIP Displays? Garmin Forerunner 165 and New Cycling Power Meters
Feb 28, 2024
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Discussing the new Garmin Forerunner 165 and the future of MIP displays, exploring new power meters from 4iiii's and Favero, analyzing Garmin's software security updates, and navigating through the confusing naming conventions of Garmin watches with entertaining tangents
4iiii's Precision Pro fills the gap for Shimano and Ultegra cranks with dual-sided accuracy on various terrains.
Four Eyes PM integrates Apple Find My support for theft recovery and enhanced user safety.
Favero Acioma MX pedals optimize accuracy and battery efficiency with terrain selector feature.
Deep dives
New Quad PM by 4i to Provide Dual-Sided Accuracy for Shimano Cranks
A new Quads PM, the 4i's Precision Pro, offers dual-sided accuracy for current generation Shimano and Ultegra cranks, filling a gap in the market where previous options weren't satisfactory for these cranks. The PM is focused on road groups and gravel, featuring impressive accuracy across various terrains like cobblestones and stones that typically lead to vibrations. Despite Shimano's own struggles with power meters, 4i's achieved accuracy and reliability with their solution, providing an alternative for cyclists.
Innovative Apple Find My Support on Four Eyes PM Cranks
Introducing an innovative feature on the Four Eyes PM cranks, the integration of Apple Find My support allows users to track their bikes in case of theft or share their location with friends for safety. The air tag system embedded in the cranks is a unique addition, offering multiple functionalities like theft recovery and activity tracking. This feature enhances user experience and safety while cycling, adding value to the product.
Unique Terrain Selector Feature on Favero Acioma MX Pedals
The Favero Acioma MX pedals introduce a terrain selector feature that adjusts gyro and accelerometer settings based on trail roughness, optimizing power measurement accuracy and battery efficiency. Despite removing the pod for a streamlined design, the pedal's battery life has increased while maintaining a competitive price point. With SPD off-road compatibility, these pedals offer accurate power measurements for mountain biking and trail enthusiasts, catering to a specific segment of the cycling market.
Garmin's New Forerunner 165: A Budget-Friendly Fitness Watch
Garmin's Forerunner 165 enters the market as a budget-friendly fitness watch offering essential running features like power metrics, structure workouts, and running efficiency feedback. Positioned as an upgraded version of the Forerunner 55 with AMOLED display, it excludes some advanced features like training readiness and power meter support. Despite this, the Forerunner 165 provides a value-packed option for fitness enthusiasts looking for a versatile and affordable smartwatch.
Issues Around Garmin's Security Update Schedule
Recent concerns arose around Garmin's security update schedule displayed on their website, indicating discrepancies in the end-of-life dates for specific devices. Users questioned the two-year timeline for security updates on Garmin watches, raising concerns about potential vulnerabilities and data security. Garmin acknowledged the issue and committed to clarifying and aligning security update timelines in the near future to ensure consistent and reliable support for their devices.
In this episode, DC Rainmaker and DesFit talk about the new Garmin Forerunner 165 and if this is the end of MIP displays, new power meters from 4iiii's and Favero, Garmin's software security updates, and of course, plenty of fun tangents along the way.
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0:00 Intro 1:19 4iiii Precision 3+ Pro 10:24 Favero Assioma Pro MX-2 17:16 Crank or Pedal Power Meter? 20:01 Garmin Forerunner 165 24:13 The End of MIP Displays? 31:05 The future of Fenix/Epix/Enduro? 34:20 Why are there so many Garmin watches? 46:09 Garmin Security Updates
