Tom Nelson Andy May: “Orwellian firing of a journal editor” | Tom Nelson Pod #339
Andy May discusses the firing of Dr. Marty Rowland for publishing a paper co-authored with Marcel Crok that argued carbon dioxide and current climate conditions are not problematic. The paper, despite being highly cited and based on peer-reviewed literature, faced political backlash and criticism, notably from figures like Michael Mann, leading to Roland’s dismissal. May criticizes the politically driven nature of climate science, highlights the importance of documenting diverse views, and warns against the suppression of scientific debate.
00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
00:55 Debate and Criticism of the Paper
01:29 Dr. Rowland's Perspective and Response
02:16 Journal's Reaction and Further Criticism
03:33 Political and Social Implications
07:26 Personal Reflections and Optimism
08:57 Suspicions and Allegations
14:51 Peer Review and Scientific Integrity
17:28 Climate Models and Predictions
20:04 Weather Forecasting and Long-term Predictions
22:31 El Nino, La Nina, and Volcanic Activity
25:11 Historical Climate Patterns
26:40 Future Climate Predictions
27:00 Ice Caps on Other Planets
27:34 Suppression of Scientific Research
29:25 Einstein's Peer Review Struggles
31:01 The Iris Effect and Climate Models
33:43 Ocean Temperature Limits
40:18 Exxon's Climate Change Research
47:59 Concluding Thoughts on Climate Skepticism
Here is the full May and Crok paper (PDF): https://andymaypetrophysicist.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Carbon-Dioxide-and-a-Warming-Climate-are-not-problems_Final_Submission_no_logo.pdf
‘Shut out’: Journal fires editor after publishing research refuting ‘warming climate’: https://www.thecollegefix.com/shut-out-journal-fires-editor-after-publishing-research-refuting-warming-climate/
More on the firing of Dr. Marty Rowland for publishing May & Crok 2025:
https://andymaypetrophysicist.com/2025/08/17/an-orwellian-firing-at-the-american-journal-of-economics-and-sociology/
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