[Un]Churned – The No. 1 Podcast for Customer Retention

This CCO Won't Ask His Team What He Wouldn't Do Himself (And Why) ft. Jim Richmond (Smartling)

Jan 28, 2026
Meet Jim Richmond, Chief Customer Officer at Smartling — a seasoned leader across sales, success, and services. He discusses why gross revenue retention is his North Star. He explains four-quarter forecasting, building systems to scale 4x, role specialization for CSMs, and how AI bots eliminated single-touch support tickets. He also shares why he still carries a book of business to stay connected to customers.
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INSIGHT

GRR As The North Star

  • Jim Richmond makes GRR (gross revenue retention) the North Star to protect existing revenue before chasing expansion.
  • This focus creates a stable foundation for sustainable growth and better customer outcomes.
ADVICE

Forecast Four Quarters Out

  • Run a four-quarter forecast to identify problems early and avoid last-minute fires.
  • Build buffers and a clear plan so surprises become manageable, not emergencies.
ADVICE

Build For The Future Team

  • Build systems and processes today for the team you'll be when growth multiplies.
  • Invest only in solutions that will continue to work when the team is four times larger.
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