Last week Dido Harding, the former amateur jockey and TalkTalk boss who since May has been the head of the ramshackle NHS Test and Trace programme, was put in charge of England’s new pandemic response agency. Sunday Times business reporter Sabah Meddings traces Harding’s rise to the top of one of the most important organisations in the country.

Host: Manveen Rana.

Guest: Sabah Meddings, pharma, consumer and leisure correspondent for The Sunday Times.

Clips: BBC News, Talkradio, Sky News, BBC Radio 4, UWE Bristol, The King’s Fund, OECD.

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Tracking and tracing the rise of Dido Harding