Thor is a conservation biologist, ecologist and author.

We talk about the importance of bees, warfare ecology, and the subjects surrounding his new book - “Hurricane Lizards and Plastic Squid” which is out now. You can find out more about Thor's work here: https://thorhanson.net/ and buy a copy of his latest books and more in most bookshops/web-stores.

Follow the podcast on Instagram - @coffee_with_conservationists / follow me - @george_brynmor  on Instagram.

Coffee Notes - Africafe instant coffee

Origin - Tanzanian cooperatives

You can find more about this coffee here: https://www.africafecoffee.co.uk/about-us 

Music credits - "Heron Island" by Richard Bentley - https://www.smallsilence.org/about