Al and Mel continue their conversation to say that the founders of the Ta'i tribe were Persians not Arabs, and that the Arabs were the soldiers. The word Qurashi; which Muslims believe was Mohammad's tribe is a Persian name. They discuss Chinese historical sources which talk about a king with a black stone; who Mel thinks is Elias ibn Qabisah (Mohammad). A proof of the strong Persian leadership also comes from the three kalifs named Yazeed I ,II, III,(first ,second and third), which undermine the Islamic tradition. They also briefly discuss when alcohol was banned in Islam.
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