Dr. Kelly & Dr. Kelly talk about integrating photobiomodulation and transforming patient outcomes

In this episode of Innovators of Health, hosts Jaydev Karande and Dr. Rahul Desai sit down with Dr. Kelly Van Vickle and Dr. Kelly Thompson of Key Wellness to unpack their shift from conventional nursing to a patient-centered, holistic practice. They share how photobiomodulation (red/NIR light) fits alongside other services, what’s working with cash-pay models, and how education dispels misconceptions so patients (and clinicians) adopt new therapies with confidence. You’ll hear practical playbooks, case wins, and first steps for adding red light therapy to your clinic—ethically, efficiently, and at scale.

Key Takeaways:

🌱 From bedside to whole-person: A pandemic-era pivot to holistic, patient-centered care.

🔴 PBM that patients use: Red/NIR light integrated across protocols to reduce pain and speed recovery.

💬 Education vs. skepticism: Clear dosing and expectations drive trust and adherence.

🧪 Personal proof: Clinician experience + patient stories accelerate adoption.

💳 Cash-pay clarity: Transparent pricing that can lower total cost of care and simplify ops.

🧰 Stacked care models: PBM pairs well with wellness and regenerative services for better outcomes.

🧠 Start simple, scale smart: Pilot protocols, train staff, then extend to clinic-to-home routines.

🤝 Collaborate to grow: Shared playbooks and cross-referrals amplify impact.

This podcast is hosted by Jaydev Karande & Dr. Rahul Desai.

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