Cracking ChatGPT (and ruling Rufus): Azoma founder Max Sinclair’s Guide to Generative Engine Optimization (GEO) in 2025

In this episode, Max Sinclair, founder and CEO of Azoma, a pioneering scale-up specializing in Generative Engine Optimization (GEO), goes deep into everything AI Engine Optimization (AEO). Max, a former Amazon search expert, highlights why traditional SEO methods are quickly becoming obsolete in the face of AI-driven search platforms such as ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Amazon Rufus. He breaks down the fundamental differences between SEO and GEO, emphasizing the critical role of creating high-quality, AI-optimized content tailored to user intent rather than relying solely on keyword-based strategies.

Max shares insightful data revealing that 58% of consumers have shifted from Google search to AI-powered platforms, with younger demographics almost entirely adopting AI tools for discovering products and services. He explains how Azoma provides brands with powerful analytics to track and improve their visibility, sentiment, and overall presence within AI-generated results, rapidly outperforming traditional SEO methods in delivering measurable results.

Finally, Max outlines actionable GEO strategies, including creating fresh, highly-contextual content designed specifically for AI platforms, proactively managing brand mentions across platforms like Reddit and Quora, and leveraging real-time data insights to adapt content rapidly for AI queries. He stresses the importance of integrating AI-driven analytics to monitor brand sentiment, continually updating content to align with evolving AI models, and partnering closely with platforms like Amazon Rufus and Walmart’s Sparky to maximize visibility and engagement in the emerging AI-driven search landscape.