Time To Say Goodbye LIVE on Epstein, 60 minutes and Phil Rivers the Jockocrat we need
Dec 23, 2025
Jay and Tyler dive into the explosive Epstein files, revealing connections to powerful elites, including startling implications for Trump. They debate the moral compromises among renowned figures linked to Epstein and the challenges journalism faces in covering such complex topics. The discussion shifts to media integrity, with critiques on CBS's recent controversies and the risk of quality decline in news reporting. They lighten the mood by discussing aging athletes like Phil Rivers, exploring their cultural impact and potential political aspirations.
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Elites' Proximity Implies Knowledge
- The released Epstein files reveal a closer, darker social network among elites than previously understood.
- Jay Caspian Kang argues regular visitors to Epstein's homes must have known and can't plausibly claim ignorance.
Files Shifted Focus Toward Trump
- The second batch of files made Trump's absence initially conspicuous, then later implicated him directly.
- Tyler says the new material is "pretty damning" and darkens the narrative around powerful men.
Personal Example Of Ending A Friendship
- Jay shared a personal example of distancing himself from a friend whose much-younger partner made him uncomfortable.
- He uses that to illustrate how people should have reacted to Epstein's environment.