The Palestine Laboratory Podcast | Episode 2: How to Make Friends
Oct 10, 2024
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Daniel Silberman, originally from Chile, reveals the traumatic impact of his family’s experiences during the Pinochet regime, discussing Israel's military support. Sasha Polakow-Suransky elaborates on Israel's secret alliances with apartheid South Africa and the historical implications of these ties. Together, they explore how Israeli arms dealings with oppressive regimes have evolved, tracing a troubling legacy that influences modern surveillance practices and military strategies globally. It's a deep dive into the dark corridors of power and complicity.
Israel's extensive military collaborations with regimes like Chile under Pinochet reveal a troubling legacy of complicity in human rights violations.
Daniel Silberman's personal account underscores the lasting psychological scars of political oppression and its parallels with Israel's military interventions.
Deep dives
Israel's Military Mindset and Global Relations
Israel's military mindset has significantly shaped its relationships with various countries, particularly in the post-World War II landscape. Much like the United States, Israel engaged with numerous oppressive regimes, often befriending dictators and human rights abusers to establish itself as a military and diplomatic power. By leveraging its military technology and training, Israel not only garnered support but also attempted to deflect criticism of its own treatment of Palestinians. This strategic alignment created a network where arms sales generated both revenue and political support, showcasing a troubling historical pattern of complicity in human rights violations.
The Chilean Context and Personal Narratives
The podcast delves into the personal story of Daniel Silberman, who recounts the harrowing experiences of his family during Chile’s military dictatorship. After the coup led by General Augusto Pinochet, Daniel’s father, a supporter of the ousted socialist President Salvador Allende, faced imprisonment and torture. Daniel highlights the brutal reality faced by political prisoners during this period, illustrating the deep psychological impact on families marked by oppression. This narrative serves as a poignant reminder of the political turmoil that many Chileans endured, which parallels Israel’s military interventions and support for authoritarian regimes.
Documented Evidence of Military Collaboration
Declassified documents reveal Israel's substantial military support to Chile during Pinochet's regime, marking a significant revelation of Israel's arms trade practices. After the U.S. arms embargo against Chile, Israel emerged as the primary supplier of military equipment and training, directly contributing to the repression of dissent within the country. Such collaborations reflect a disturbing trend where military expertise developed in Palestine was employed in other nations against their own populations. This relationship not only facilitated violence in Chile but also underscores a broader pattern of military collaboration between Israel and various repressive regimes globally.
A Legacy of Arms Trade and Global Implications
Israel's arms trade extends beyond its relationship with Chile, as evidenced by its connections with numerous authoritarian states throughout history. From Argentina's dictatorship to support during genocides in Rwanda and Myanmar, Israel's willingness to sell weapons to oppressive governments raises moral questions about its international standing. The podcast emphasizes that this pattern of arms sales is not merely about generating profit; it highlights a troubling complicity in global human rights abuses. As nations continue to replicate Israel's militarized strategies, there emerges an urgent need for global awareness and accountability regarding these transactions and their implications for human rights worldwide.
Investigative journalist Antony Loewenstein uncovers how the Palestine Laboratory has operated since 1948, detailing Israel’s long-standing role as a major arms dealer to some of the world’s most repressive regimes. Using declassified documents, Loewenstein traces secret deals made with dictators from Pinochet's Chile to apartheid South Africa and explores how Israel's military model is now being replicated in places like Myanmar and India. As history repeats itself, how does Israel continue to act with impunity?
Guests: Daniel Silberman and Sasha Polakow-Suransky
The Palestine Laboratory Podcast is Drop Site’s first investigative series, looking into how Israel is using Palestinian territories as a testing ground to develop its occupation-enforcing tech industry. Hosted by investigative journalist Antony Loewenstein and based on his recent book, this podcast series examines how Israel is reshaping conflict and population control globally. What happens in Palestine never stays there.
Credits
Host: Antony Loewenstein
Series Producer: Elle Marsh
Producer: Bethany Atkinson-Quinton
Production & Sound Engineering: Tim Jenkins
Field Recording: Cinnamon Nippard
Studio Recordings at 2SER: Michael Jones and Jonathan Chang