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Join Jesse Michels on today's episode of American Alchemy as he sits down with researcher UAP Gerb. UAP Gerb's YouTube ➤ https://www.youtube.com/@UCXr8USOuzZN_3y_efZpryrg

This was one of the most mind blowing, information-dense interviews we’ve ever done. UAPGerb is a deep wellspring of knowledge on UFO crash retrievals and reverse‐engineering. He takes us on a comprehensive tour of Air Force Bases, Deep Underground Military Bases and “Federally Funded Research Organizations” associated with UFO reverse engineering efforts across the United States. He is in touch with multiple firsthand eyewitnesses of crafts and “biologics” in military intelligence and private aerospace. Gerb traces the roots of these clandestine operations from early Cold War initiatives—such as the 1947 Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit and Battelle’s project Stork working with Blue Book — to modern-day programs allegedly managed by the NSA and DOE. He reveals specialized teams, identified by DOE rain jackets and black fatigues operating from sites like Area51’s S4 near Papoose Mountain, Dugway Proving Grounds, and Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. With references to the famous Twining memo and testimonies from figures such as Philip J. Corso, Robert Sarbacher and Edgar Fouchet, Gerb paints a picture of a multi-layered, continuously evolving and obfuscated UFO program. One in which the dark money spent is unfathomable harkening back to Rumsfeld’s September 10th 2001 speech about trillions missing from the Defense Budget and the great work of Catherine Austin Fitts.

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Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction

01:11 UFO Whistleblowers

03:41 Michael Herrera

08:07 Military and Intelligence Connections

12:08 The Role of Psionics

15:44 Corso's Legacy and UFO Technology

23:21 The Evolution of UFO Research

27:10 The Secretive World of FFRDCs

34:57 Deep Underground Military Bases

42:09 Collaboration in UFO Investigations

50:38 The Complexities of Disclosure

57:03 Bob Lazar and S-4 Connections

1:03:25 Battelle and UFO Research

1:13:36 The Holloman Air Force Base Footage

1:15:17 The Sandler Connection

1:24:06 Whistleblowers and Classified Sightings

1:28:09 The Hidden Technologies

1:37:09 The Role of Dick Cheney

1:50:50 The Alien Reproduction Vehicle

2:03:17 Early UFO Crashes

2:14:53 The Reality of Reverse Engineering

2:24:28 Continuing the Investigation

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