Ryan, Jeremy and Chris embrace another loss as the Lions plummet and crash. Who can step up on the defense? Nobody on Sunday wanted to do it. Playcalling and philosophy are lost, Stafford can't be who he was last year and yes, we do talk about the Boston Boys - Matt Patricia and Bob Quinn - on the hot seat. Ryan tasks us to prove the Packers and Bears aren't just good teams. Chris discusses the role injuries play early in the year with no preseason. Rage, frustration and hijinks - PODcast in mid-season form even if the Lions aren't.
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