The Emotionally Healthy Leader Podcast

Do the Work Before the Work

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Dec 9, 2025
Explore the radical idea of doing inner work before stepping into leadership roles. Discover how Jesus exemplified solitude and Spirit-led decisions as essential to integrity in leadership. Listen to the poignant tale of The Woodcarver, revealing practices of mindfulness and effortless creation. Learn practical tips for maintaining spaciousness amidst life's chaos, and embrace your unique path free from external pressures. Get inspired to assess your inner life and recognize the gifts in your context and limits.
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INSIGHT

Lead From The Inside Out

  • Pete Scazzaro argues leadership must flow from inner spiritual life, not just external activity.
  • Doing the inner "work before the work" creates congruence between who you are and what you do.
ANECDOTE

The Woodcarver Parable

  • Pete recounts the ancient Chinese poem "The Woodcarver" about a craftsman who fasts and centers before starting work.
  • The woodcarver waits until he finds the right tree, then the bell stand appears effortlessly.
ADVICE

Live Your Unique Calling

  • Do the inner work to discover and live your unique God-given life instead of others' expectations.
  • Listen first and let your calling emerge from solitude and communion with God before acting.
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