Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Justin Richmond on You'll Hear It: "Still Crazy After All These Years" — Paul Simon

Dec 4, 2025
Justin Richmond, co-creator of the Broken Record podcast, joins hosts Adam Maness and Peter Martin to explore Paul Simon's Grammy-winning album, born from turmoil and creativity. They discuss the emotional backdrop of Simon's divorce, the influence of Stevie Wonder, and iconic tracks like '50 Ways to Leave Your Lover.' Musician Steve Gadd's drum mastery is highlighted, along with the intricate arrangements that make this album a masterpiece. The trio reflects on its lasting impact and how it resonates with themes of loss and reflection.
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ANECDOTE

Album Born From Divorce

  • Justin Richmond describes Paul Simon writing Still Crazy After All These Years in a hotel during his divorce.
  • He credits Stevie Wonder's Innervisions as a catalyst that pushed Simon into that emotional breakup period and creative response.
INSIGHT

Jazz Musicians Playing Pop

  • The album is
ADVICE

Invite Interpretation, Not Jazz Clichés

  • When working with jazz players on pop songs, invite them to interpret rather than force jazz clichés.
  • Let restraint highlight lyrics and phrasing for singer-songwriter material.
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