The Paranormal UFO Consciousness Podcast

President Roosevelt, Cordell Hull, the Craft, and the Creatures

Apr 6, 2021

19:08

In 2009 I travelled to Ohio to do an interview with Lucile Andrew and Allene (Holt) Gramly. Both women, then in their 80s, recounted how their father Shenandoah Christian Church Reverend Turner Holt had told them in 1948 about being shown a metallic craft and creatures in glass containers. He was shown this in the sub-basement of the Capitol by then Secretary of State Cordell Hull.

When the Roswell story was becoming popular the two women contacted the Center for UFO Studies offering to make public what they father had told them. Both women are now deceased but their story will live on for years to come.