Morning Wire The View From Pod Force One with Miranda Devine
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Nov 23, 2025 Miranda Devine, a columnist at the New York Post and host of Pod Force One, shares unique insights into Trump's second term. She reveals the origins of her podcast, sparked by early conversations with Trump. Devine discusses his memorable flute anecdote and explores cabinet dynamics, highlighting the blend of strong personalities and shared childhood traumas. She contrasts the confident approach of Trump's second term with the uncertainty of his first. Additionally, Devine delves into foreign policy challenges, identifying China as a key concern and outlining Trump's potential strategy.
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Podcast Origin With Trump
- Miranda Devine explains Pod Force One began from a conversation between Donald Trump and her editor Keith Poole and uses the name as a play on Air Force One.
- She recorded multiple in-depth interviews with Trump to capture off-the-news moments and his personal quirks, like learning the flute as a child.
Cohesive Cabinet Despite Clashes
- Miranda Devine says the cabinet shows unity despite occasional clashes among many "alpha males."
- She attributes cohesion to Trump's open-door style and frequent informal interactions around the Resolute Desk.
Shared Childhood Traumas
- Devine notes a surprising pattern: many top officials experienced a traumatic event involving their father around age 12.
- She suggests those early shocks accelerated maturity and shaped their drive and careers.