A new Craftwork conversation with Matthew Clark Davison and Alice LaPlante, co-authors of The Lab: Experiments in Writing Across Genre, available from W. W. Norton & Col.

Davison is the author of Doubting Thomas and founder of The Lab, a generative writing workshop. He is emeritus faculty in Creative Writing at San Francisco State University, and lives in Oakland, California with his husband.

LaPlante is the author of the craft book The Making of a Story and the New York Times best-selling novel Turn of Mind. She has taught creative writing at Stanford and San Francisco State University and lives in Mallorca, Spain, with her family.

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