Zapper is one of the most popular crypto apps. And on Thursday, they published the v2, which transformed Zapper from a portfolio tracker into a web3 exploration tool. I talk with Seb about their early days, management & growth tactics, v2, and... art.

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1:57 How Seb got disillusioned with finance and started building, which led him to Ethereum, DeFi, and the idea of Zapper

4:25 First days of Zapper and integrations with Uniswap and Synthetix

6:04 How hard it was to query information on-chain

7:13 How Seb came up with the idea of Zapper v2 and why they bet on it

10:54 Zapper as a social media for investors and a better exploration tool than Etherscan

14:27 What’s the process behind Zapper’s slick design

17:18 How they organized Zapper to ship fast

20:20 Why they don’t have QAs in Zapper

21:57 How have they chosen the market to build on

24:55 How networks effects helped them to grow

26:05 How they decided which protocol to integrate and what helped them grow the most

28:20 What NFT and DAO-related user acquisition strategies do they use right now

31:42 Why Seb thinks founders and DeFi protocols focus too much on marketing

33:33 Biggest fuckups they had

35:45 How does Zapper make money

37:58 What would Seb fix about crypto and web3

40:30 Why web3 builders develop a thick skin

41:42 How a metaverse billboard and generative arts inspire him

47:00 What was the most fun web3 thing that happened to Seb

48:20 Crypto Twitter making the Internet fun again

50:23 Where people can find more info about Zapper

51:00 Guest idea - Founder of Interface

52:30 How I found $500 in my Zapper account