Lola is a media and communications officer for Indigenous rights organisation Survival International. We talk about the importance of decolonising wildlife conservation, how Indigenous people suffer in the name of conservation, why international NGOs such as WWF have a lot to answer for, and much more. This is a subject I’ve been wanting to get onto the podcast for a long time. I do hope you can all listen and learn from this episode, however, I do have to place a content warning on this episode for mentions of some upsetting topics. You can find out more about Survival International's work here: https://www.survivalinternational.org/  Follow the podcast on Instagram - @coffee_with_conservationists / follow me - @george_brynmor  on Instagram. Coffee Notes - Ekowah Coffee Info - Tinker Camp  Origin - Columbia Tasting notes - milk chocolate and dried fruit You can find more about this coffee here: https://ekowahcoffee.com/identity Music credits - "Heron Island" by Richard Bentley - https://www.smallsilence.org/about