In this Frontline special we hear an in-depth conversation with former NATO deputy Supreme Allied Commander, Major General Sir Richard Shireff. He discusses NATO's unequivocal statement that Ukraine's membership in NATO is "irreversible", and how that is a major step which could halt Vladimir Putin if Western aid increases.

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