Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page chat about all things on and off the telly.

Nat and Jo discuss Nat's big news - after 32 years on Albert Square, she's made the difficult decision to leave EastEnders. She talks about how it's sad but it's the right time to go, what we've got to look forward to as part of the 40th anniversary celebrations, how she feels about the live episode and what she can't wait to do as soon as she's finished. Plus they discuss two new shows: Black Doves on Netflix and Brian and Maggie on Channel 4.

What they can’t stop watching, what they definitely aren’t going to bother with, new releases and comforting classics – TV is timeless and no telly is out of bounds. As well as having a natter about what’s on TV, they share backstage goss from the world of telly, whilst also cracking up about the more humbling moments in their lives. Self-confessed TV addicts and stars of two of the biggest shows on our screens, EastEnders and Gavin and Stacey, Natalie and Joanna are the perfect companions to see what’s occurring on and off the telly.

Timecodes for shows discussed today are:

21:11 - Black Doves (Netflix) 27:14 - Brian and Maggie (Channel 4) Get in touch by sending us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to 03306 784704.

Hosts: Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page Producer: Georgia Keating Executive Producer: Richard Morris Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts Production Co-ordinator: Becky Carewe-Jeffries Sounds Editor: Arlie Adlington Music by MCasso

Off The Telly is a BBC Studios Audio Production for BBC Sounds.