Mars vs. Pluto: the Pope, Beyoncé, Sinners, and Katy Perry in space

May 3, 2025

Explore the astrological intrigue behind the Mars-Pluto opposition and how it mirrors our societal power struggles. The conversation dives into the cultural impact of Beyoncé and Katy Perry along with recent events like the passing of Pope Francis. Legal professionals are urged to defy authority in the name of justice, while economic instability is linked to celestial movements. The complexities of celebrity space tourism spark debates on ethics and wealth, blending astrology with the real world in a fun and thought-provoking way.

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Mars-Pluto Opposition: Power Clash

The Mars-Pluto opposition signals confrontation between individual power and massive power structures. - This celestial pattern mirrors prolonged societal revolutions needing sustained energy over years.

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Venus in Pisces: Space Detachment

Venus exalted in Pisces during space tourism reflected detachment from real-world struggles. - This event highlighted the disconnect between luxury escapism and societal needs.

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Neptune Aries: New Travel Frontiers

Neptune’s move into Aries parallels new frontiers in travel and glamour, resembling tourism’s fantasy. - This transit amplifies themes of escape and spectacle in current events.

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Episode 19

In this podcast, professional astrologers Chani Nicholas, Thea Anderson, and Eliza Robertson look to the sky to make sense of what’s happening here on Earth.

This episode brings you into the astrological group chat to talk about how the Mars–Pluto opposition and new Aries era have landed IRL. Covering everything from the Blue Origin flight to Beyoncé’s birth chart reading, the passing of Pope Francis, and the impact of Sinners’ success at the box office, we look back at how recent planetary power struggles manifested in the collective. Plus, we give a preview of what to expect when Saturn changes signs at the end of May. It’s practical. It’s fun. It’s chatty. And it’s the women x space collab you deserve.

Content warning: Vancouver and New Orleans terror attacks

Timestamps:

(00:00) - Welcome to Down to Astro episode 19

(03:06) - Previous Mars–Pluto predictions: revolution and struggles for power

(05:51) - Venus and Neptune in Pisces: women in space

(17:59) - Defying authority: the role of judges and the law

(20:57) - Violence and tragedy: the Mars–Pluto opposition reflected in recent headlines

(31:12) - The impact of Trump on the Canadian election

(39:02) - The passing of Pope Francis and its astrological significance

(46:17) - Economic turmoil and the role of Uranus

(56:30) - The influence of Venus in Aries: the Met Gala

(01:01:01) - Cowboy Carter and Beyoncé’s astrology

(01:11:20) - Sinners: 1932’s nodal return reflected in cinema

(01:20:50) - Ask us anything: the transition to Saturn in Aries

(01:24:41) - Imagining a new reality with the upcoming Saturn–Neptune conjunction

This episode was recorded on 04/29/2025.

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The song “Midas,” featured in the podcast, was created by NISHA and is available wherever you listen to music.

This episode also mentioned the following creative works:

“The Astrology Podcast” hosted by Chris Brennan
“Cowboy Carter” by Beyoncé
“Cowboy Carter Art Book” by Beyoncé
The New York Times/Siena Survey

P.S. The transcript for this episode is available here.