531. Irreversible Damage at Fourteen | Detransitioner Clementine Breen
Mar 20, 2025
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Clementine Breen, a detransitioner who faced trauma, shares her harrowing journey from childhood sexual abuse to undergoing gender-affirming surgeries. She reveals the misleading information from medical professionals, including the unsettling pressure she faced at a young age. Their conversation dives into the complex intersection of mental health, identity struggles, and the emotional aftermath of surgery. Currently, Clementine is engaged in a landmark lawsuit, shedding light on the need for careful evaluation in gender-affirming treatments and the pressing issues surrounding informed consent.
Clementine Breen's de-transitioning journey reveals how unresolved childhood trauma influenced her misdiagnosis of gender dysphoria and subsequent medical interventions.
The podcast critiques the medical practices of professionals like Dr. Joanna Olson-Kennedy, highlighting concerns about inadequate mental health evaluations in gender-affirming care.
Breen's advocacy against affirmative-only models of care emphasizes the need for cautious approaches to youth experiencing gender dysphoria and broader mental health considerations.
Deep dives
Background and Early Events
The discussion begins with the personal experiences of a young woman who underwent significant medical transitions from a young age, starting with puberty blockers at 12, testosterone at 13, and a double mastectomy at 14. Her narrative reveals that much of her discomfort stemmed from unresolved trauma, specifically sexual abuse at age six, which remained unaddressed during her initial consultations with medical professionals. She reflects on how her feelings of discomfort with her body and profound anxiety during puberty were misdiagnosed as gender dysphoria, leading to early medical interventions that she later regretted. The lack of thorough investigations into her history by the professionals involved contributed to decisions that she now believes were hastily made and inadequately explored.
Role of Medical Professionals
The episode highlights the involvement of several key medical figures, particularly Dr. Joanna Olson-Kennedy, who played a pivotal role in facilitating the guest’s transition process. Olson-Kennedy, a prominent advocate for gender-affirming care, is criticized for her practices, notably her decision not to publish study results showing a lack of mental health improvement through puberty blockers. The young woman recalls that during her consultations, she was rarely questioned deeply about her past, and her feelings were quickly affirmed as proof of her gender identity without a comprehensive evaluation of her mental health. This raises concerns about the standards of care in places like the Center for Trans Youth Health and Development, questioning whether they prioritize thorough investigations over rapid affirmation.
Consequences of Medical Interventions
Throughout her medical transition, the guest reports a range of physical and psychological consequences stemming from hormone treatments and surgeries. While testosterone temporarily eased some anxiety and discomfort, it ultimately led to severe mental health challenges, including psychosis, when her dosage was increased. The physical aftermath of her double mastectomy included ongoing chest pain and dissatisfaction with her body, highlighting the disconnect between medical intervention and actual psychological relief. She stresses that her mental health deteriorated further post-surgery, which contradicts the initial promise of medical interventions stabilizing her life.
Realization and Reflection
As she began to seek help for her mental health more comprehensively, she ultimately recognized the profound impact of her childhood trauma on her transition journey. Working with a new therapist, she was able to confront her past abuse and understand its connection to her gender dysphoria, which she initially did not see as related. This therapeutic process was critical in reshaping her perception of femininity, as she realized that the internalized shame and anxiety about being female were rooted in her trauma rather than an inherent problem with her identity. With this newfound clarity, she concluded that transitioning did not resolve her issues and led to further internal conflict.
Detransitioning Journey
The guest shares her journey toward detransitioning, a process fueled by her realization that her initial choices did not alleviate her distress and instead intensified her feelings of loss and regret about her biological identity. After stopping testosterone and addressing her childhood trauma, she began to reconnect with her female identity without the pressures and expectations that had previously guided her decisions. This shift allowed her to embrace her identity as a female while focusing on her aspirations and passions outside gender discussions, such as pursuing a career in theater. Ultimately, her introspection led her to advocate against the rapid medicalization of youth experiencing gender dysphoria, emphasizing the need for a more cautious and thoughtful approach.
Advocacy and Legal Action
The episode concludes with the young woman's decision to file a lawsuit against the medical professionals and institutions involved in her case, seeking accountability for what she sees as malpractice in the treatment of vulnerable youths. Her advocacy focuses on raising awareness about the potential harm of affirmative-only models of care and the importance of examining broader mental health issues. Beyond legal action, she hopes to contribute to a public dialogue about the realities faced by individuals who transition and later detransition, emphasizing that her story is far from unique. Through her outreach and public speaking, she aims to ignite change in how gender dysphoria is approached in clinical settings, advocating for the preservation of young people's well-being above all.
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with Clementine Breen, a child who was moved through the transgender pipeline and has since de-transitioned. Together they walk through her story (from early sexual abuse to the daunting decision to undergo affirming surgery), the confusion and fallout thereafter, reorientation, and her lawsuit against the doctor who led her astray.
Clementine Breen is a de-transitioner who experienced early sexual abuse before having her gender dysphoria misdiagnosed as being transgender. Top surgery was sold to her at age 13, all the while her parents were told the atrocious “dead daughter or living son” lie. She is currently embroiled in a landmark lawsuit against her former doctor, Dr. Olson Kennedy.
This episode was filmed on January 1st, 2025.
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