

September 22, 2024
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This discussion features a guest contributor specializing in information theory and a thought-provoking guest who questions cybernetic models' relevance. They dive into the complexities of Shannon's information theory, highlighting its limitations and philosophical implications. The conversation also critiques early cybernetic models, emphasizing the nuances of human cognition. Further explorations touch on disembodiment themes in 'Neuromancer' and the evolving definitions of cybernetics, addressing how historical context shapes our understanding of information and consciousness.
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Cybernetics' Nebulous Nature
- Cybernetics was a nebulous field with varied interpretations of "information".
- This made it difficult to understand the core principles and led to miscommunication.
Early Concerns about Information Theory
- Simondon's concerns about information theory's limited scope were present early on.
- Cyberneticians like McKay, who emphasized reflexivity, shared similar concerns.
Simondon's Black Square Analogy
- Simondon argued that a simple black square image is more informative than TV static, despite having lower information content in Shannon's terms.
- He highlighted the paradox of technical vs. semantic information.