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The discussion with Giles Udy focuses on the Soviet gulag system, revealing the deep-seated horrors that defined it. Udy emphasizes the impact of this system on society and its historical significance, particularly through his new book, 'At Dawn They Came.' He shares insights from his exploration of the remnants of the gulag in Russia, shedding light on the human suffering and repression that occurred from 1917 to 1953. This segment also touches on the broader implications of socialism, its allure in the West, and the inherent dangers that it poses.