21 Hats Podcast

Best of: A Punk Rocker’s Guide to Building a Business

Sep 2, 2025
Join Jenelle Etzel, a former punk rocker turned CEO of Living Room Realty, and Shawn Busse, CEO of Kinesis, as they explore the unusual paths to entrepreneurship. Jenelle shares her journey from living in a van to leading a successful real estate agency, emphasizing the importance of community and storytelling in building a brand. They discuss how creative backgrounds can enhance business strategies and tackle current real estate challenges. This engaging conversation is a tribute to the power of unconventional experiences in driving successful enterprises.
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ANECDOTE

House Purchase Sparked Career Change

  • Jenelle bought her first house after seeing a fellow musician rent bedrooms and live free in the basement.
  • That experience showed her real estate could fund creative life and sparked her career change.
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Building A Brand For Creatives

  • Jenelle started Living Room Realty to better serve artists, musicians, and nontraditional clients ignored by mainstream marketing.
  • She reframed the 'living room' as lifestyle space where creatives make a living and asked real estate to tell those stories.
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Started In A Recession With Kids

  • Jenelle launched Living Room in 2008 while pregnant and with an infant, during a housing recession.
  • Starting in downturns shaped her confidence but managing a large company through later downturns felt like a different leadership challenge.
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