

#30 - Ross Campbell: Legal Engineering and Kali DAO
Ross Campbell (@r_ross_campbell) is a legal engineer and core developer for SushiSwap, LexDAO, and KaliDAO, in addition to being a corporate attorney.
In this episode of Law of Code, Ross speaks from his ETH Denver hotel room on legal engineering with the Lex and Kali DAOs, how projects can work with both, and the impact of decentralization on nations.
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[2:14] Ross catches us up on current projects and how Soulmate is creating a library of smart contracts
[5:43] Saving gas and testnets
[8:00] Difference between Testnets and EVM (& forking mainnet)
[9:14] Gas fees
[11:40] ETH Denver
[14:54] Will developers rug pull lawyers?
[25:30] What to consider when forming a DAO
[29:38] Kali DAO: What it is, how it works, etc.
[40:00] Ross' productivity hacks
[46:11] Reframing ‘thinking like a lawyer'
[48:44] Accredited investor laws
[52:01] Individualism
[55:36] Nation-states vs decentralization
[60:00] Social safety nets & DAOs
[68:20] Mistakes often made when starting down the path of a legal engineer
[73:00] $ROSS token
Show Notes:
- Marty Lobdell - Study Less Study Smart
- Cyberspace and the Law of the Horse
- LexDAO
- Kali DAO