On Joe Rogan and Ukraine

Guests: Tanael Joachim (TJ) and Fred Kaplan. 

Tanael Joachim is a standup comedian who has made appearances on Gotham Comedy Live on AXS TV and on Good Day New York on FOX. He is based in New York City but was born and raised in Haiti and is a regular at the Comedy Cellar. 

Fred Kaplan is is the national-security columnist for Slate and the author of six books, including The Bomb and the Plot to Change the American Way of War, which was a New York Times best-seller and a Pulitzer Prize finalist. He was the Boston Globe’s Moscow Bureau Chief and the Globe’s defense correspondent for a decade before that, during which time he was on a team of reporters that won the Pulitzer Prize for a special magazine on the nuclear arms race.