Aram Shabanian, an expert on the strong men of the Caucasus, discusses the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan, calling Azerbaijan's President the 'Saddam Hussein of the Caucasus'. They also explore the controversial legacy of Chechen dictator Ramzan Kadyrov and the potential instability in the region. Other topics include the political situations in Azerbaijan and Armenia, the ineffective international response, and the influence of populism in both countries.
The escalating tension between Armenia and Azerbaijan is rooted in historical grievances and has the potential to involve other nations in the conflict.
The influence and cult of personality surrounding Ramzan Kadyrov in Chechnya highlights the negative impact of populist leaders and the potential consequences of their decline or absence in the region.
Deep dives
The brewing conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan
The podcast discusses the escalating tension between Armenia and Azerbaijan, highlighting the recent events and buildup leading to the conflict. It notes the historical context of the Nagorno-Karabakh region and the dynamic between the two countries. Additionally, it examines the potential repercussions and involvement of other nations in the conflict.
The influence and impact of Ramzan Kadyrov
The episode examines Ramzan Kadyrov, the leader of Chechnya, and his influence within Chechen society and beyond. It explores his controversial actions, cult of personality, and his social media presence. Moreover, it discusses the implications of his potential decline or absence in the region.
The dangers of populism and its consequences
The podcast delves into the negative effects of populism, using Kadyrov and other populist leaders as examples. It highlights the dangers of leaders who appeal to nationalist sentiments and employ rhetoric that can lead to violence and instability. The episode examines the role of populism in society and its impact on international relations.
The global significance and interconnectedness of regional conflicts
The episode emphasizes the interconnectedness of regional conflicts and their potential consequences at a global level. It discusses how conflicts in lesser-known regions, such as the Caucasus, can have far-reaching effects beyond their immediate surroundings. It highlights the importance of international bodies, like the UN, in addressing and preventing the escalation of such conflicts.
Aram Shabanian stops by this week to talk to us about the strong men of the Caucasus.
We start with a deep dive into what’s going on in Armenia and Azerbaijan right now with a focus on the 1990s. Shabanian calls Azerbaijan’s President, Ilham Aliyevl, the “Saddam Hussein of the Caucasus” and comes to grip with the realpolitik of the conflict.
Then we turn our attention to Chechen dictator Ramzan Kadyrov and discuss rumors of his failing health, mixed martial arts, and how a brutal warlord became an internet meme.
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