Is plastic packaging evil? Is it killing sea-life, reducing sperm counts of men globally, decimating bird populations, or is it a misunderstood miracle material? In the Package Design Unboxd Q&A Clubhouse room, Chris DeArmitt Plastic Scientist and author of A Plastic Paradox joined Pierre Paslier CEO and co-founder of NOTPla to debate plastic packaging. Regardless of which side of the aisle you sit on, you need to listen to this episode. The goal of this episode is to share points on both sides that expose the debate brands are afraid to have because they don't know who to believe.  WARNING: Recording quality is crap. I'm sorry. But listen to it anyway, there is a lot to learn and think about in this episode.  Learn more about Pierre Paslier and NOTPla, it's a seaweed based material capable of replacing plastic in specific applications. It's so sustainable you can eat it. You can download Chris DeArmitt's new book and decide for yourself. Connect with Evelio Mattos on LinkedIn Follow Package Design Unboxd on LinkedIn Please subscribe, rate, and review. Download your own sustainability guide here