Summary

In this episode, Andy interviews Adrian Kelly, author of The Success Complex: Ancient wisdom, the building blocks of life and your path to sustained success. Drawing from history, behavioral science, and personal stories, Adrian offers a compelling redefinition of what it means to succeed. From his humble academic beginnings to building international ventures, Adrian brings a unique perspective on resilience, motivation, and identity.

They discuss why IQ may be overrated and how something Adrian calls the “Point Guard Quotient” might better predict success. The conversation dives into increasing your luck, avoiding de-motivation, managing identity through career changes, and maintaining balance in a high-achievement world. They also explore practical lessons from the Challenger disaster and how small changes in communication can shape results.

If you’re looking for insights on redefining success, building motivation, and leading with awareness and impact, this episode is for you!

Sound Bites

“We overestimate talent and underestimate persistence.”
“Opportunity doesn’t waste time with the unprepared.”
“People want to help people who help themselves.”
“You don’t fall off a cliff overnight—you drift one day at a time.”
“Avoiding de-motivation is often more important than sustaining motivation.”
“Sometimes the drawback isn’t a setback—it’s a setup for a better path.”
“Nobody traps us quite like we trap ourselves.”

Chapters

00:00 Introduction
01:07 Start of Interview
01:18 What from your early life shaped your view of success?
07:12 How much does IQ influence success and what’s the 'Point Guard Quotient'?
11:52 What can we learn about success from the Challenger disaster?
14:03 What do you mean by avoiding de-motivation to sustain motivation?
18:57 What do you mean by a tangled identity and how has that affected you?
27:05 Is it possible to increase your luck? If so, how?
30:41 How do biases and communication styles affect our opportunities?
33:48 How can we balance the drive to succeed with well-being?
39:34 Why is autonomy and attention so important for success?
43:39 As parents, how can we prepare our children for success?
47:00 End of Interview
47:30 Andy Comments After the Interview
53:49 Outtakes

Learn More

You can learn more about Adrian and his work at AskMore.ie.

For more learning on this topic, check out:

Episode 458 with Elizabeth Lotardo about finding joy and meaning in your current job.
Episode 402 with Eduardo Briceño about developing a growth mindset.
Episode 283 with Tom Rath about success, meaning, and legacy.
Episode 261 with David Epstein about his book Range and embracing diverse career paths.

Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast!

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Music: Echo by Alexander Nakarada License (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

Music: Energetic Drive Indie Rock by WinnieTheMoog License (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

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