Shawn Ryan Show

#195 Marat Gabidullin - Wagner Group Commander / Russian Mercenary

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Apr 28, 2025
Marat Gabidullin, a former commander in the Wagner Group and author critical of its actions, shares shocking insights from his time fighting in Syria, including the Battle of Khasham. He recounts his rise in the ranks, disillusionment, and the chaotic realities of warfare alongside U.S. forces. Joining him is John Lechner, a journalist specializing in Russian PMCs, who discusses the Wagner Group's genesis and its controversial recruitment strategies. Together, they shed light on the complicated dynamics of modern conflict and the moral complexities surrounding private military operations.
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ANECDOTE

Marat Gabidullin's Unique Journey

  • Marat Gabidullin was a Wagner Group commander who fought U.S. forces at the Battle of Khasham in Syria in 2018.
  • He later left Wagner, wrote a revealing book, and now lives in France seeking asylum.
INSIGHT

Wagner's Origin Story

  • Wagner Group emerged from the conflict started in Eastern Ukraine around 2014 as a Kremlin-backed mercenary force.
  • Its founder, Yevgeny Prigozhin, used nationalist and business connections to create this force linked to Russia's military goals.
INSIGHT

Early Wagner Recruitment

  • Wagner recruited primarily experienced military men through word of mouth, not official prison recruiting at first.
  • Early Wagner groups formed from disgruntled soldiers familiar with Syria and Ukraine conflicts.
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