Artistic rivalry, symbolism, and themes in Manet's Olympia. Contrasting approaches of Manet and Degas. Analysis of portraiture and relationships in French painting.
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Manet's painting 'Olympia' tells a complex story using limited symbolic elements and showcases his ambition as a painter.
Degas' paintings of people not working and the absence of visible black bodies reflect his presentist focus and raise questions about his connections to black communities.
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The Olympia and Manet's Ambition
The podcast discusses the exhibition 'Manet Degas' at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, focusing on Manet's painting 'Olympia'. They describe 'Olympia' as a powerful and shocking painting that tells a complex story using limited symbolic elements. They highlight the brushwork used by Manet to convey form and the way the black woman, Laura, is depicted. The discussion explores the ambition of Manet as a painter and his desire to be part of a historical conversation.
Degas' Presentist Gaze
The podcast delves into the paintings of Degas, particularly his portrayal of modern life and his voyeuristic approach. They analyze Degas' paintings of people not working and the absence of visible black bodies in his paintings, despite him having connections to black communities in cosmopolitan cities like New Orleans. The discussion reflects on the contrast between the ambition of Manet and the presentist focus of Degas.
Manet and Degas: Compare and Contrast
The podcast explores the compare and contrast approach taken in the exhibition between Manet and Degas. They discuss Degas' painting of Manet and his wife, Suzanne, and the controversial reaction it provoked from Manet. The conversation also touches on the portraiture of both artists, the depth of looking and investigation involved, and the role of museums in preserving and showcasing their work.
What does it mean to a painter of modern life? Helen & Steve Locke discuss artistic rivalry, leisure, and labor politics in Manet/Degas, a historic exhibition pairing two giants of the 19th century, on view at the Metropolitan Museum of Art through January 7, 2024.
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